Thanks for proving my point. Don't tell me - tell it to the people of Chicago and Baltimore et al. I think we spend WAY too much time talking about the shooters. F'em all regardless of where they come from or what they intended. Evil is evil - I don't rank it in levels or categorize it and think it's a waste of time to try.

A murdered dead person is a murdered dead person. If you could ask them and they could answer, I'm pretty certain they wouldn't care how they were actually murdered or by whom.

All of the items on page 1 plus about 50 others would be a good start. The best start is acknowledging that evil can come from anywhere and from all of us. It doesn't know race, creed, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual preference, ability, class structure etc and no single user group is immune.

I think understanding, accepting and coming to terms with that is what could potentially bring everyone together on this issue. Nothing will get done unless the division goes away first. IMO.