Minutes are part of a permenate record and lord do they hate them. I remember the line you used once ( might be a word or so off ) " Dave expressed his exteme displeasure loudly " I damn near died reading that months minutes which was not the agencies preferred choice of words. LP about had a stroke but he got the Skook mitigation back up basin as it was supposed to be. Thing is staff usually held thier own but you, Paul, Jim and Sara were the exception to the rule being forthright.