Here here Os, I couldn't say it any better myself. I will add this much. If you're gonna spend the money on a Pac series like Sparkey had said, go buy a Steelheader. It's a MUCH MUCH MUCH better boat. Sounds like basically the same damned price, so why buy a low end boat (sorry Sparkey, but even the high end Pac is still a low end boat). Plus Bill from Skookum makes a very good frame for his steelheader versus the Outcasts. I'd say it's the best "production" boat out there in the "fishing craft" series. Then, you can move into Os's frames , I give them a double thumbs up!!!!!!!!!!!

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you haven't lived til you've rowed a cataraft. Friends don't let friends run Outcasts.