Good point well taken Dan. After watching the "sportsnaggers" on the Cowlitz silvers up by the barrier dam last fall and hearing reports of that in many other places, us real sportsmen and the WDF&G enforcement need to do a much better job of curtailing that activity. However, I didn't say the Indian snagging was exclusive - just rubbing salt into an open wound to allow them to legally snag stacked fish after the fiasco of the absurd Columbia mainstem springer allocations have occured. I've got some cheese and crackers to go along with that 'aged' whine if ya need it smile . ... BTW, 'Spanky' and I are taking some guys on up a ways there to put the hurt on a load of springers this week - I'll ask him to send ya a steak. - Steve