No, my views are not changed. These slackers do "not" have a good track record on keeping things clean or even taking care of themselves. How can you or anyone tell me that its just O.K to dig a trench in the middle of a very pristine area and have 20,000 plus people crap in it. The salmon are the real issue here. They have enough dogs with them to insure the the fish are harrassed at all times. This creek is small- 20,000 plus people do not belong right next to it at this time of year. Any organization or group of people who claim to care about the enviroment would never even concider this site for this type of gathering. They did not get a permit- it was denied for obvious reasons- they do not pay any fees like any other person would at a forrest service camp ground- they will trash the area and then they will leave it..And we will pay to clean it up. And the wild salmon... they are screwed


We don't need 20,000 rainbow people to show us how special bear valley is. Posers... thats the perfect description of what these people are..