I fish on sunday around Portuguese Point around 70 to 75 feet of water. With four people in the boat we got into 25 that were to small .We took four home that were in the mid 50's as well as fought an oversize that never did show it's self to us. All were cought on sand shrimp but take a lot as you will get ate up like you have never seen. When the water get moving in this area you need a good bit of lead to hold you down ..We used from 12 to start to 16 at the fast part of the tide. Hope this helps.