Duckinthefog: You make a valid point. It's hard not to take some of these remarks as a personal attack. I am of the same opinion as you in that just because we disagree on an issue, it doesn't have to get personal. However, when people are telling you what a horrible person you are, and telling you how they would tell their children to stay away from people like you.... Well, it's hard to take that kind of a statement as anything other than personal. As far as violence goes, you're right, I could get myself into all kinds of trouble by spouting off to someone that I've never even seen. I might win, I might get my @ss kicked. It doesn't matter. the better part of valor lies in the act, not in the end result, ie, I've had my @ss kicked before..... It's not that bad. I would rather get my @ss kicked knowing I tried then to turn tail and run just to save my skin. I'm not about fighting and confrontation, quite the contrary. But, when everyone gangs up and starts to issue insults and personal attacks, then I go on the defense, and that's when I resort to confrontation and violence. I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about me. I'm just a regular guy with a wife and three kids. I like to fish. I enjoy the company of most of the guys I meet on the river. I've never gotten into a fist fight on the river, and for the most part, the other fishermen I've encoutered over the last 20 years or so, are some of the best people I've met. I'm in it for the fish, not all of the other B.S. This will be my last post on this topic as I have grown bored of it. Later, guys.