Os and Dan, good points - and well taken. In fact, in reality I love the medium pool and drop kind of rivers like the Sop better than the bigger rivers like the Cow, NF, and Clack. I like the smaller coastal rivers even better yet. I really hope we get rains and fish in the Sop in time, and I will enjoy coming up there. And I will bring my notepad to write down tips I learn from watching you local pros ..... not; I will bring the notepad to keep track of the hords of fish landed in OR boats, and to keep track of the more important tips (the green ones laugh ). ... Nah, I'm about trashed out. I need to re-energize to be cranking out the smackin on Oct. 6th wink . .... As for the call by some to have it on the Cow, I think that is only because of the more likelyhood of it having more stable water and fish number conditions, and secondarily the more central location - not trying to get a jetboat advantages. I agree that jets are an advantage on teh Cow though, so if it has to be there due to lack of rain then I agree with the mentioned idea of having 3 classes - jets, drifters, bankies. Remember, it's all in fun and it will be .... kicking WA ass! Nah, jk. And lots of good camraderie fun partying someplace afterward. You WA hosts let us know the contingencies you collectively decide on as soon as reasonable, hopefully by the 1st of Oct?

RT