Ya, this stuff is a little bit silly - kinda like real life, ay? Maybe not so silly. Part of the reason I have so enjoyed these two NW BBs is because they have become large and diverse enough that they have also become a microcosm of society in general. While both fishing informative and fun, they are also an interesting study of human nature. That's partly why it has become semi-addictive for many members.

For the couple of guys expressing that ifish stuff should be left on ifish, I understand your sentiment. However, understand that these 2 fishing BB communities have a lot more members that belong to both sites than you realize! And when fair things get deleted on ifish by the Nazis, some of us have taken to putting it on this fair site when it is worthy. And importantly, this is about the new age of communication and it's affect on the NW fishing world! Not just ifish or Piscatorial. ... Also as mentioned, you don't have to click on this thread anyway! Why is that concept so difficult for some boneheads to grasp?!? They complain about it, but yet they keep clicking on it and become involved making sniveling posts. Hmmm. Like I said, an interesting study of human interactions and reasoning.

Thanks Aunty M, and many others, for understanding the 'what and why' of this thread. Your wisdom comes thru on your website too Marsha (Aunty M.).

There is a double standard and certain inconsistency of application of so-called 'rules' applied to a public forum on ifish. Like in oppresive big business, the owner and her compatriots are often allowed to by pass these 'rules' while many are not - including me, who helped build that BB both financially and via informative and fun posts; for close to 2 years. I don't remain there for those unfair people with the delete bottons, I am there to enjoy interaction with a whole lot of friends and also a lot of good members there. This situation has been ongoing due to the agenda and disdain of the owner toward the moderators that felt compelled to leave that role at ifish (3 leaving within a half year). Those are facts. Like it or not. Deal with it if you don't like it; because it is the basis for problems that should be avoided. >>>>>

I credibly compare fishing website pages set up as a public forum, to
salmon/steelhead rivers. Just as the adjacent landowners of NW rivers technically own the land on each side of them and even the river bottom too, they do not own the water or fish that run thru them. It's much the same with websites that open a public forum page. The page is technically owned, but the rightfully expressed thoughts of the members can NOT be owned and fashioned! And these members and their contributions are the lifeblood of the whole website; and bring the hit ratings that bring ad revenues to the site! Posted thoughts belong to the posters. And anyone that behaves reasonably should not be censored. Certainly treated the same as others. Not doing so, as has been the case with ifish, is akin to the riverfront property owner telling boaters they can't anchor on the bottom of the river they own; which is legally incorrect. It's also like a property owner telling some boaters where they are allowed to cast into the public water, while allowing their friends to cast where and how they want. That is not right! That's the point this whole thing has come to. Fairness and consistency for all. Like it is supposed to be in free America; and should be everywhere. ...

A deserved rant. That's all.

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