Timber Man, I was just trying to point out that Fly Fishin can catch em just as good or better in some situations as conventional gear. Truthfully I didnt see anybody else hook a fish while I was there. Like I said before on the right pocket at the right time using the right thing. I fished a fresh spot that dosent get fished as by looking at it you would never know there was a nice pocket. Everbody else was below me fishing a meat hole that got pounded all day. I didnt mean to say that I was a better fisherman, I was just in the right place because I knew about it and they didnt.