Thanks jim I will take a look.I think I might make one.I have made two other rods and they have become special.Cabelas has some good deals to.I bought a budget 8 wieght and got to use my buddies yuppy rod.What a differance.I havent spent over a hundred dollars for a rod ever.I think that is about to change.Don't give up on me I do own a lami.Thanks again. Nikkomutt is that you?If it is i'll be home after 8 maybe even sober ha ha

[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: ltlCLEO ]