Chrome22, I'm with STLHDR1 on rigging his lead,sometimes you might want to do just a little flip cast to hit that perfect lookin pocket,so with a slider you try it and your lead lands half way between the boat and the spot you wanted to hit.The hole punch stlhdr1 was talking about are called "LEAD MASTER "pliers...great tool
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