Hmmmmm Divers? I suppose you can make a statement like that after actually tryin a rod? rolleyes Could you be specific on your experiences with it? I've been fishing 1025c Allstars since last September...and no problems....I find them a superb rod...damm good b@lls on the hook set and super sensitive...I've loaned them to several fishen friends who are 10 percenters...they liked them for the same reasons. Plus as Aunty said you can get several instead of one.....I quit payen for name value long time ago. So please enlighten us? laugh What? No? Hmmm? Hey ya like Loomis buy Loomis. rolleyes BTW Joe is probably one of the finest people on this planet you will ever get to know if you tried. Nuff said.