I will double that I also like to use 40lb or 50lb leader . It is a lot stiffer and improves the action of your hootchie or bucktail. Also I will never fish without scents again. Last time out we had four fish for four guys when the average was 1 per boat. I have been really lucky this year. 7 trips and 20 salmon two of the trip we were skunked and the other 5 full of action. I going to find some wood to knock on now.