Well i broke down and purchased the lami, unbelievable rod, Ultra Sensitive does not even begin to describe this rod. i used it at one of my favorite holes and hooked a ton of fish (FISH4STEEL can attest to that). I don't even know if i would fish anything else, this rod has definitely spoiled me. What suprised me is that it did have the backbone that i was looking for. Thanks for all your input
Matt