Driftboat has the ticket there, He showed me how to do it a couple of years ago. I have had success with and without a diver. alot depends upon water conditions and hole depth. Wrap them puppies with sardine's, Bob has a link in the technique's that shows how. Jerry's surplus or Ted's both carry them.
Driftboat are you doing the BenHoward thing? maybe I will run into you.
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