one of those 2 guys were me, the one with the bass rod and the curado. casting a 1/4 oz 3/0 gammie jig purple and cerise with pink glow in the dark head by itself on a slow retrieve usually gets a fish everycast. some were in the mouth but 8 out of 10 times they bite it with there side or tail. that creek it filled up the the max right now.