Thanks Bob and others who added some info. Never thought for a second you were holding out any info. I have always found people on this BB to be very safety minded, I'm sure that is why it was brought up to begin with. I'm just one of those guys who needs a little more detail. I went bottom up about 15 years ago and it has left a lasting impression. Always been a little embarassed about that episode, but not to embarrassed to ask a question about something that might put me or my passengers at risk.

Thanks guys thumbs
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