I'll buy that, Aunty. Bottom line is they are exercising their own free will. Victimized people do not. Someone who is robbed, assaulted or raped is victimized. Big difference.

Guys like TK, ISO, my dad, my father-in-law, etc., are of 1960's mentality, where women are expected to be submisive to man's sexual advances, and a woman that deviates from that and is outwardly sexual is deemed a threat to their masculinity. I'm guessing men like this NEED an oppresive perspective toward women to function in the bedroom.