yeah ...you wont hear from sard for any kind of actual conversation or thought.. especially thought....its way easier to bash the folks that think than it is to think for yourself.....

it is a situation not unlike much of central and south america where colonialism set up profitable yet highly unfair and immoral agricultural systems and it is very hard to change that without alot of pain and economic loss and it often leads to some sort of maniac in control eith for the reform or to fight it and protect the satus quo
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