You talk about their leaders not about the dudes who strap it on and blow themselves up. They are the tools. The folks educated in the west tend not to be the ones dieing for allah they are the ones who seize upon the opportunity to grasp power. It is the ones who have no hope for a future except sleeping with virgins.

Europeans have turned their cheek as you say and the middle east has been embroiled in violence for decades but that only goes to further my feeling that trying another route may succeed. Violence begats violence and ignoring it gets you where Europe is.

Your statement about attacking the west without a threat from us is just as naive as any view I have shared. Our business decisions and foreign policy has had tremendous affect on their culture and region which I would envision they see as a threat Americans would feel the same if Chinese foreign policy and business practices altered our culture. Especially if you look into the country where the majority of terrorists on 9/11 came from. The oppressive nature of the Saud's leads to radical fundamentalism. A few benefitting at the expense of others!

If you knew any muslims you would know that THEY do not "value death". They have armed radical sects/elements to their religion. The 700 club with guns! THEY at least the THEY I think you are referring to are a minority, the majority are good people!

How do we get the majority to speak? Are they not speaking or are we not listening or even looking to listen?