Dan, Salmo

Well it's 3:58 pm, and most of the rivers are still out and you are probably just sitting at your desks waiting to write something or go home, so I thought that I would give you guys something to rebut!

Obviously, I never intended this thread to be an IQ test between man and fish! Since you both have degrees in biology, and have voiced your opinions about salmon and steelhead having the brains the size of a "pie" lets talk about that for just a minute. Is it the size of a brain that counts, or is it how it is used that counts?

Maybe my thread should have read; "Are salmon and steelhead smarter than each other, or are they just smarter then humans?

Apparently, according to "some biologists" on this board, salmon species have been here just a hair bit longer than humans have, even though their brains are only the size of pees; so who's really the smarter ones…salmon, steelhead, or humans?

Since some of you people that have degrees in biology; please tell us your secrets why you believe that we are so "smart" and fish are so dumb. Or it the "pecking order" that you are talking about?

Do you see fish polluting the earth? Do you fish creating weapons that can completely destroy their own species? Do you see any "fish jails"? Do you see fish dying from high blood pressure; hart disease, cancer or other man made or created diseases?

I respect what Smalma had said until proven otherwise about salmon; "…as I recall the first of the salmonid type fish show up in the fossil records maybe 50 million years ago" (how long ago do you say that humans first showed up?). "The first of the salmon/trout type was around maybe 10 million years ago (again, how long ago do you say that first human types first showed up?)

. … "As recently as 12,000 years ago the area north of Southern Puget Sound was ice covered. As that ice age ended and the ice receded our streams were colonized from populations found to the South, interior of the upper Columbia and/or the Queen Charolate Islands north of Vancouver Island."… end quote.

Dan and Salmo, how long do you think humans have been here, give or take a million or so years?

How big is the size of the brain of a "cock roach"? He's (Mr. cock roach) as been around longer then most, so what is your point about the size of brains? Is it the size of the "brain" that makes one smarter, or is it how a species uses it brain to survive that makes it smarter?

If salmon and steelhead species are so dump, why does man spend so much of his time, efforts and his money trying to out-smart them, and keep trying to catch them? Who's really dumber? Do you see any salmon or steelhead trying to catch any humans?

So how is "smarter'?


Cowlitzfisherman