They are fine in Ultra Clear water, as you can use 2,3,4 pound test and get the ones that are line shy. You'll also tie up a spot for a while when trying to fight fish on them. The guys around you may not appreciate the time they are out of the water while you are fighting your fish. The big key to getting good hook ups, is to use a fine wire hook, then the hookset can be done with more of a lift, than a snap. They ran their course in the Great Lakes, and some guys still use them. They are a beast to fish with in wind. I wouldn't use them for any fish that I intend to release. eek

Mine has since been retired for steelies, but still gets lot's of action for bluegills and crappies in farm ponds. You can light up their little rumps with one pound line. Good luck. moose
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