Bankwalker, my information comes from the game wardens, and wallace creek hatchery personel, these are a unique strain of kings,they are not Springers ,or Fall kings. By the time they reach the Wallace they are pretty much dark ,not the chrome bright fish that you find in the snohomish just out of the salt, the market value of these fish is high and the tribes would never agree to collect dark kings over high dollar bright kings. I tried to get records from wdfw and have never recieved any responce at all. Pat