Nebb- I've tried Duvall point lodge and they are booked when I can go. Looks like I'm stuck with the Thunderbird. I'll check their cancellation policy and get on the waiting list at one of the nicer ones. If it was just me and the guys the T-Bird would be fine, or the back of my truck even. However, got the wife and kids to think of as well.... anyway, thanks for the info.