i see a guy who "fly fishes" on the carbon for kings, and anyone who fishes the carbon knows a king couldnt see a fly, nor could a king see a hotspot/hoochie combo in that water color (sarcasm), give me a break, he says, oh yeah there takin the fly today..when im fishing a red corky with scent, no pickups at all..i guess its back to "fly fishing err flossing"