Grandpa, you are absolutely right. We hear about the Washington Forest group (Bill Wilkison's org.) and it makes me want to throw up. There are better laws and regulations now but in general the forestry industry had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table. For you to get your blood into a boil all you need to do is think about environmental extremists, for me, its the rape and abuse of the People's forests - our National Forests. You look at habitat problems and their effect on wild fish - look at the logging practices of the late 19th and almost all of the 20th century. And they did it on National Forests. Can you say Corporate Welfare? Disgusting.