Well Mavrik I would really love for yo to show me a thing or 2, i was out there last night and got skunked again, i think i should change my name to skunkmaster, cause i have it down pat now, the worst thing is that my wife does also (lol), she is wondering if i am about ready to give up fishing. Gonna try and hookup with some people to go down to the Carbon on Saturday, if anyones going let me know please.