Mooch sounds like you really like them Winona's. Read your post sorry to hear about the ill fate of yours I run across them from time to time if you would like I could holler at ya next time I come across a nice one. I have fished with the one I have a couple times out in the salt-chuck other than that it sits on the box it came in all polished up on my shelf looks real purty that stainless really shines.