CFM,
As I said above...
PLF is not anti-fish, and they do not have a vendetta against anyone, even wild fish advocates.
They are, however, pro-money...pro-money to the point that it is more important than the environment or the animals that live in it, or the people who live off of or enjoy them.
Not being friends of the environment, or fish, or fishing, or fishermen, doesn make PLF against wild fish recovery, or the environment, or against fish or fishermen.
It means that for them, what they are doing has nothing to do with fish or the environment, it just has to do with money.
For us, it does involve the environment and fish, and fishing.
My entire first post on this thread is about exactly that...I specifically pointed out that they are not against the environment...they are for money, and the environment doesn't even come into their mind.
Here's one way to look at them...
1. PLF hates wild fish, and the environmnent
2. PLF hates people who like wild fish and the environment
3. PLF sued the feds to have the fish de-listed so that they could destroy wild fish, the environment, and hurt the people who like wild fish and the environment.
I suppose you could see it that way, but I don't think that you'd be correct. I think it's more like this...
1. PLF's members make money damaging the environment
2. Environmental damage comes at a price, and the less allowed, the more expesive it gets.
3. The ESA is very restrictive, and any damage that comes under its umbrella is very expensive.
4. Making money in ways that damage the environment under the ESA umbrella is hard, and not as much money is being made.
5. Rather than violate the ESA and risk civil and criminal penalties to make money, use proper legal channels to remove the ESA restrictions.
I don't think that hate or love for the environment or environmentalists even comes into the picture...it's just money, and it's all money.
And just to make it clear, if I don't like PLF or what they do, that does not make me anti-jobs, or pro-unemployment, or pro-poverty.
It means that I don't like what PLF does, and that's it.
Fish on...
Todd