Rob..my previous post was supposed to be a joke to show you how you sound sometimes....Very absolute in your opinions...for example:

"I don't care what rights landowners lose it's time to save the fish..."

That comment is an example of why groups like the PLF exist. They exist to stop extreme regulations that, in their opinion, go way beyond the intent of laws designed to protect our environment. The fact is that many knee-jerk decisions have been made in the name of environmentalism that cannot be supported by science. Alot of people don't buy the idea that if you are a business you are a pig and against fish. As a small example, clearcutting makes me sick but I am not against all logging and I am not against all logging roads...I don't want to pound spikes into trees to prevent logging and I won't be sitting in a tree to save an owl anytime soon. I am for saving fish with sound logical science .