stihlhead,

If u read on more into the bottom of DJ's post, it says "the waters too deep/dark to see the fish swim/hit it" that is true, the samish is the muddy thing u'd ever fish and being someone who worked for Fish and Wildlife Enforcement, the warden would have no grounds to stand on unless he was able to see the fish! That i've gone over a hundred times with my boss when Phil Henry a Fish and Wildlife Officer was my boss! No pun intended, just the truth! Chris