Bob -
I didn't say that we collective were overfishing some stocks some years. What I did say that such fishing has not limited the productivity of those stocks.

You Hoh case makes my point - if we cut harvest levels down we see increases in run size above and beyond escapement levels (one of the few healthy stocks). In the rest of the steelhead populations when harvest is reduced we do not see any reward in terms of increased escapements - a clear example would be the Snohomish system where the last seveal years escapements of 6,000 to 7,000 fish have been producing have been producing runs and escapements of less than 3,000 fish - this is in spite of a sport fishery managed under WSR - the combined sport fishing and trbial netting wild fish imapcts while fishing hatchery fish has been 3.3%.

Lets see- we have WSR so can't blame the urban myth of over harvest by the sport fishing - have less than 2% impact from tribal netting so can't blame the urban myth of tribal netting --- Who or what should we blame? The hatchery fish, bait fishing, competition from the salmon plants, floods, all the jet boats, the fly guys walking on the redds, etc etc.

Tight ines
S malma

Tight lines
S malma