OK. Thanks for all the input.
I am running both behind flashers. The rod with the spoon is softer than the one with the hootchie but not a lot. I am going to add a swivle and see if that can help me out.
I did lose a fish last night because he got the hook bent into the spoon and was able to change the angle. the swivle should stop that.
I know that a lot of the fish I have been catching are not turning on the lure and causing the hook set but they sure get hooked better with the hootchie.
I am going to do a search for exactly what the herzog bend is. hopefully that will help out too.
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