Was at Casey Sat. am, helped a novice,bobber and herring virgin, catch a 6lber on his 3rd cast. He had an 8lber on about a half hour later, threw the hook. I had 4 bites no fish joy for me. In total I saw one about 12, 2 between 8 to 10 and a couple of other small ones. The fish are nice size, just not in thick.