GH, I agree that he is not the final word and more than likely there is some credence into what he is saying. I also don't think that this is all one administrations fault either, like some want to say. Unfortunately for all of us BOTH parties have a lot of corruption and a lot of people they own $$ favors $$ to. Maybe one more than the other? But, for myself, I think that I align my beliefs (more like hopes) with one side more than the other hoping that we will get someone, one day, that will actually stand up for those beliefs. I too have beliefs that fall on the other side but I looked at my options, which really suck, and I have to stay on the right a little. Probably has to do with my military background and a little more conservative belief than the left. I am probably more moderate that anything else.

As far as this whole Clarke thing it's really BS and a waste of time. I mean a waste of time because what's it really going to prove? What is really going to happen? If Clarke was that sorry and knew that much about OBL and that an attack was imminent he should have went public with it. That may have stopped the attacks?? We'll never know. Also, if he knew that the attack was imminent how much responsibility does he bear? I can tell you if I knew someone was going to hold up the local AM/PM and didn't say anything I'd be typing this note from behind bars and looking over my shoulder making sure Bubba wasn't behind me. When all is said and done with it nothing will have changed. It's really something that will hold us over till Kerry gets back from Vacation. :rolleyes:

If you think about it, are the American people really given a choice when the two we have to vote for is Bush or Kerry? I don't. To me it's like having to choose which little toe do you want to have cut off. Neither little toe is worth much and I really don't understand their purpose but we have them and you have to make a choice. It's probably going to hurt some no matter which one you choose and you just hope that you don't find out after it's gone that you picked the wrong one. Stupid analogy but for some reason when Kerry/Bush pop into my head the I first think big toe but the big toe is actually useful and I know what it's there for...

Anyway, and unfortunately for most of us, the American middle class is the one that always bears the load for the country. We will always pay the taxes for the rich and the poor. We will be the ones that are expected to give up the most. We will always be the ones that get screwed over the most. We will also be the one who's lives will be most affected by those changes.

I have argued about my side and my points. But, I have also listen to you and others on this board and have learned a thing or two. Do the arguments get a little heated sometimes? We'll yes. But, it's all in the sake of what we all want and that's a better America and a better place for our children to grow up. I guess it just seems that sometimes we lose sight of what we are really even debating about. I see people that actually hate each other just because of the party they align themselves with. Now that is STUPID!!! I think and I hope that the reason people get so heated and passionate is that they want the best for all of us?? Now that might be pipe dreamin there?

Well, I got WAY of subject and started rambling. So to you and other's that I have debated with and may have offended in some way it's not personal.


Oh BTW to that guy is California, God Bless America you JO!!