Phish

Maybe i approach this part of the text with more severity than most people because i think it's important to understand one thing about the human condition, maybe there is a better forum for this discussuon but i guess this is where it came up so thi is where it should be.
The human condition as displayed in this text is that we are fallen and redemption is utterly impossible. I think that is the point of the entire bible. Humans are totally and completely without any form of hope of avoiding hell because what we do is evil.
That in my opinion is the realization we all need to come to, because only that will drive us to our knees insearch of the mercy we so desperatly need.
When that is reached then God can give us the gift of faith in Christ the one who takes away and foregives our sin.

For thoes not interested in the religious part of this debate I apologize for having this discussion here.