Well I would like to hear Doc's response on this one, but in the mean time I would like to reminjd every one especially the na sayers on the hot chicks avatars or posts that what you're seeing is nothing more than a kid is going to see watching commericals on tv, prime time tv, adds in magazines like SI, or billboards like the black velvet one or the dom triplets, or the bud girls, or the coors light commerical with the train, or the twins football commerical. As for the clicks or club thing going on,so the **** what. Are you jealous, are you lonely that you don't have a fishing buddy or a group of dudes to kick it with. And for the whole moral, or class argument give me a figgin break. There are already to many stupid laws and rules out there in this world to have some tide wadded conservative "I have nothing better to do than to find something to ***** about and stir the pot up a bit" guy try to bring up a subject like such. I think maybe somje people are jealous they wern't invited to that snoop rod tourney or something. Just a guess but it seems that usually in life when some one trys to bring you down with comments, or negative unfounded criticisms they have a low self esteem and need to lash out at others to make them selves feel better. If you don't like the avatars of certain people turn them off. And quit *****ing, tis the season to be jolly, not bah humbug. And the by the way, Metallica, Pantera, Maiden, slayer, Tool, Deftones, and many other bands can help a dude get through some hard times. Merry Christmas all even you Doc!!!!