Congrats Dogfish. My son (now 14) passed his test a couple years ago and its fun to have him along when out in the woods. Where are you taking the boys grouse hunting? I know its a ways away, but when I hunted mulies near Winthrop a few years ago there were lots of grouse. I had always planned to go back just for the birds, but have yet to make it. It's beautiful county over there as well.