I used to do "the ditch" alot! The DB thing was ok, but my best luck to get into a hole was to lauch about 10:00pm and spendthe night. I was one of the "mouth maggots". Some of the best fishing times I ever had (not "real" fishing, but great camping). I was lucky enought to be accepted as a "local" We would stay on the boat 2-4 days depending on the weekend, and just hogline. As stated above, sometimes the fishing is great and soemtimes it's jsut a trip. Don't expect and tranquil and scerence settings. Combat at it's finest.