I hate the whole concept of outsiders getting involved in family affairs. I do understand it is necessary on occation, but it's gotten to the point a parent can't even whip their disobeadiant child without it being called child abuse. I personally don't think it's possible to deal with all the issues a parent is faced with in raising a kid to adolesence without strapping the tar out of them a time or two. It's called bitter consequence, and kids that are faced with the cold hard reality of fuc%ing up with a belt across the ass are the ones that straighten up and fly straight. It's the ones who do as they please with no fear or respect for parental rules that end up being problem adults.