thanks for all the info. more or less i guess what i am wondering as hunting season is starting for me. and hopefuly i do shoot a animal that is of mounting quality, i was wanting to have something lined up as i don't know how to tan a hide. and would be looking for somewhere to drop the head and cape off to have done. also i am wanting a wall mount although the whole body stuff is killer. also i have never done more than a european mount myself. but would like to have a real head mount done