pretty sure but you can't name any?

I'll tell you what's wrong with MOST bass players nowadays.....no frickin groove. Aping the rhythm guitar. No concept whatsoever of crafting a tone from their instrument. Over reliance on effects instead of their rig. Inability to improvise. I can go on of course...too many eigth notes, not enough whole notes and bends, not enough chords

...and for the record, Pat Travers was substantially before my time.