The kunans are for "THE MAN" bruce! Growing up in Eureka he introduced me to the beauty of fishing. He let me row his hyde at the age of 10. I owe it all to bruce my best friends dad and one of the best damb guides in the six rivers area. He wanted some because the factory burned down and they are no longer available. He loves em' for pluggin' and I'll ask him want model he needs. Personally I fish 8-15 7'9" or the 9000's. Thanks steelheader, I'll get back to you.