Would you feel better if I called you a Fly flicking nancy boy? It doesn't need to go to the level that it is taken on this board at a general rule. Civil people, no matter there leanings, can have civil debates. Civil people when incited by borderline hate speach, can make comments as uncivil as my first one. One thing that has been established, is that we have problems in our country and politics, what is yet to be decided is how to solve them and thats where in the problem lies. Extremeists on both sides only serve to make the problems worse. I consider myself middle of the road, although by the standards put forth by some on this board, I am gun toting, redneck neanderthal, ready to reinstitute the catholic crusades.