Originally Posted By: eyeFISH
In rough orders of magnitude, just what percentage of CR hatchery spring chinook are realistically biters?

1 in 10?

1 in 100?

1 in 1000?

In my limited experience, I'd say that next to Willapa Bay kings, mainstem CR springers are the worst NON-BITING strain of chinook in the state. (Since we share the river with Oregon, they can take half the blame wink )

If I run over 100 springers with my gear, I'd be pushing my luck to get even ONE of the dirty bass turds to bite. Yes, we ARE that bad!

The point i'm making here is that for every 100 hatchery fish the nets remove, you're losing one stinking keepable biter TOPS!


What are you talking about??? Just because you struggle to catch a CR Springer doesn't mean others haven't had their 20+ fish days on them.... They're actually excellent biters and simple fish to catch through out the entire river. That includes trolling herring, fishing kwikies or bouncing eggs around bonneville..... Yes early in the season March and April when fewer fish are present and water temps are low there are challenging days but when the peak of the run hits the river and water temps start rising I beg to differ.......

Step outside the box and fish something other than a herring out of a package... You have to get a little creative with the herring "and other baitfish" but no doubt the CR has excellent biters, and I've witnessed and had spectacular bites as a plunker off the shore with spin-glows....

I'm more into the 1 in 10 are biters during a herring troll and 1 in 4 are biters in areas with less pressure or during an egg bite.....

Even with your suggested numbers if we had 200,000 hatchery springers return to the CR and 1 in 100 bit that would be 2000 fish that would be caught by the entire sports fleet....

Let's use some round numbers for the sake of arguement.... Let's say there were 160,000 hatchery springers crossing Bonny and we get to kill 20,000 as sporties. That would be 1 in 8 that were biters that were KILLED and not lost or missed or etc.... So you factor in the number of fish lost, turned loose or missed bites and you're closer to 1 in 5 as "BITERS"....

Sounds like a pretty good biting strain of fish to me........

Keith
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