hmmm...i know about the "issues" and I dont like his frame boats that much but the new outlaw really has features that I like much more than the WM. Lotsa BS from Scadden for sure and I know for a fact all his boats are not class 5 rated like he claims and the carrying capacity claims seem a bit far fetched as well. glad u piledrove the punks and got your boat back and i very well might take u up on that offer as its time to start chasing summers on the fly...cheers