You really are cynical. Seine fisheries are already common in the salt here and Alaska, they just are not requiring the separation of wild fish. Which means the dept has ordered seine nets. In respect to your question, the Youtube video of the selective harvest legislation, the gillnetter told Blake, NOAA already told them, selective or the plants get cut. But, then you might have missed that, since you cropped the video times to suit your agenda. You cut off witness on the front and the back end.


I also find it amusing that no one from California ever bothers to chime in on these monthly cry baby sessions. About the time Washington and Oregon made gillnets the only legal gear on the CR. California banned them altogether. Guess there isnt any sportfishing in California.


Maybe the Lawyer/mathematician could explain how the harvest allocation would change, if only safe areas were used with the .10 mortality (and the unfortunate increase in URB that followed all the pen fish into the safe areas) Tell us what the difference is and why they wont catch more and more hatchery fish. Right now the safe areas are not part of the split with the tribes. In order to have the harvest you claim the commercial will get, they will need to replant the more lower tributary and upper tributary fish in the safe areas, because in effect, they are fishing more selectively. That is, if you can get every boat into the safe area. Of course if any permits are retired, the per boat harvest goes up and the allocation remains the same, something that has not been explored. The lawyer wants to kick them out of the CR. Well so do the rest of us. But fishing off the mouth of the columbia requires selective gear or some other changes to eliminate wild fish mortality. Apparently in the ocean, the 2% is not part of the equation. LCR Sports will always need an impact. "Tribal and Commercial fisheries should be required to reduce impacts as much as possible. It falls under corporate and environmental responsibility, not you get all the fish if you dont kill all the wild off.
Too many get caught up in the Past time, handed down thru generations BS. Well so is every other business and they all have to tow the line in environmental and technological changes. This whole thing stinks of a stealth commercial lobby on PP


Might also be interesting to hear the L/M on how Dam removal will/won't change the harvest allocations of hatchery and or wild fish, since there would be more wild fish and more impacts, cause as you say, the same amount of fish would die. You can skip the diatribe about me and just answer the fking question. Id also like to see the law, that says it cannot be changed.

Of course the other part of this is about all west coast ocean fishing, because BC and AK are catching our fish in seine nets and whatever is swimming next to them. I called Ak F & G. They dont sort. They should be sorting and fishing near the terminal bays in order to reduce lower 48 bycatch. with all the extra fish coming back, it could easily change the equation.

Given the crab issue, the state is finally looking at the money brought in by recreational harvest. Id still like to meet the politican who would run on that platform, he will get sport votes. Id like to see any politician stand up and defend Todds position and expect to win. We should do nothing and let the Pew Trust and Packard, with a little help from OUR OCEANS, just shut down all fishing period.

I doubt the questions will be answered since they dont fit into his agenda. But then with all the groups like Wild fish conservancy, its hard to decide, whether to support them, when they want to push Marine protection areas, and NOT doing anything about 15,ooo seals in Puget Sound. There were about 40 people at the aquarium who heard that.

In regards to the plant cuts, maybe the feds planned it all along. Have the tribe produce more fish and reduce funding somewhere else. Its also possible they may be using the threat of cuts to hurry the process along. They are adding a LOT of fish to the pens and so if they are subtracting from the main stem fishery, its pretty much the same thing as raising their allocation. For every thousand fish they take from the main stem tribs, we lose about 550. But, since they get 45% plus all the fish in the safe areas, they already could be taking more hatchery than the sport allocation.

If you need time to think, just call me names... see ya all next month for the boater cry session. Boater, do you have periods?