THIS GUY'S NOT KIDDING ABOUT THE STOUT LEADERS! I STARTED OUT WITH 17LB. LEADERS AND LOST THE FIRST 7 STRIKES I GOT. LEADER SNAPPED! WENT TO 25 LB. AND BROKE EVERY OTHER ONE. FINALLY I FOUND SOME WIRE LEADERS I USE WHEN I TAKE THE KIDS DOG FISHING, AND SALVAGED THE DAY. AFTER THAT DAY, I WENT TO 50 LB. LEADERS ABOUT 10 INCHES LONG AND NEVER BROKE ANOTHER ONE. HOPE WE GET ANOTHER CHANCE AT 'EM AGAIN THIS YEAR.