Yup DF you hit it. Second is one D ( West Virgina ) and the Blue Dogs have said nope no more. The D's have give or take 6 votes less than the number on paper and blindly following Harry the Pied Piper is all done. On the R side same way. Rand Paul and others aren't going no place and the stupid idea, we won you loose, factor will not rule. Two Senators are independents and the D's have a whole bunch of seats up in the next election and the R's a few which has a lot to do with what happens also.

It is interesting though that hard core Libs & Conservatives don't seem to get it. Last time we did not vote a blank check to the Lib D's but rather threw the bum R's out. Well the D's did not get the picture and went nuts sooooooooooo, we threw the D bums out but that does not mean we endorse the hard right R BS.

Question is will both sides get the message that the 50% of the country that does buy either sides bs will throw them out again if the make a mess out of things.